How can I be deluded? I am Richard Dawkins.
Oh, hang on, or am I Quentin S. Crisp?
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How can I be deluded? I am Richard Dawkins.
Oh, hang on, or am I Quentin S. Crisp?
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I think you’re more than both. We all scene more than one characters in life!
I like the idea that I’m more than the sum of me + Richard Dawkins.
You talk sense and do not have an over inflated ego therefore you cannot be Dawkins
but we all have an ego inflated inside us…it can take time to appear, but it appears.about the link, I like this song.
yes, but there are too much people to represent, and to think for… it can be confused some times…they can melt sometimes… and dont know anymore who is who…
“they can melt sometimes… and dont know anymore who is who…”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zDgCyTVhDE”You talk sense and do not have an over inflated ego therefore you cannot be Dawkins.”And it was just those two points that made me wonder if I was. But I’m glad to have some outside corroboration…
“but we all have an ego inflated inside us…it can take time to appear, but it appears.about the link, I like this song.”Well, I think mine appeared a long time ago. According to Sonia Echobelly (it’s been so long, I can’t remember if I’ve got the name right), ‘ego’ is an acronym for ‘everybody’s got one’. I believe that Lulu was offered the song All the Madmen, also by Bowie, but she or her management turned it down for some reason. That would have been such a great piece of musical history. Anyway, she settled on The Man Who Sold the World.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVbLgxokEoHmmm. Actually, that’s pretty appropriate to this post.
I forgot my favourite bit:Where can the horizon lieWhen a nation hides its organic mindIn a cellar, dark and grim?They must be… very dim.(He followed me home, Mummy.Can I keep him?)
I love that song so much. It always cheers me up. Bowie’s existence is worth it even just for that song.Here I standFoot in handTalking to my wallI’m not quite right at all,Am I?It seems to be a kind of parody of part of Hey, You’ve Got to Hide Your Love Away, if I’ve got the title right.Shame the clip seems to cut out before the song ends.Day after dayThey tell me I can goThey tell me I can blowTo the far side of townWhere it’s pointless to be high’Cause it’s such a long way down…..Don’t set me freeI’m as heavy as can beJust my librium and meAnd my EST makes three.So good!
I dont know why Bowie is so denied in Brazil. We dont see people listening or even talking about him.I like him. But I wish I could listen him more. I feel depressed sometimes when I listen him.Maybe cos he has the power to extract all my hidden bad feelings to the surface.
Bowie was one of those who actually brought content and depth to pop/rock. I still don’t believe that I’ve encountered anything in popular music that equals what he did in the seventies, when he reached incredible heights of… wistfulness? He managed, very powerfully, to suggest something otherworldly. People like Alice Cooper or Ozzy Osbourne sung about madness, but it was side-show kind of stuff, with fake blood and so on. Bowie seemed genuinely touched and fragile, and deliberately explored madness in a serious fashion in his music. I suppose what fascinated me as a child was that he seemed at any moment about to cross over into some other world and take us with him. Unfortunately, he never quite made that cross-over. He fell back down to Earth again. Like Icarus.
maybe one that could follow Bowie into the 80’s was Morrisey, he represented well the madness and wistfulness as well.but since there, i cant see anyone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QERyh9YYEis&feature=relatedMore later.
“maybe one that could follow Bowie into the 80’s was Morrisey, he represented well the madness and wistfulness as well.”I think they have similarities, but it’s hard for me to say what they are. Bowie’s world is very glamorous and visionary, whereas Morrissey’s is very dour and kitchen sink. Also, I think Bowie has or did have an interest in heightened states of consciousness. His songs tend to have a feeling of sudden breakthrough (in choruses and so on) into realms of experience beyond the mundane and beyond what can be described in mundane language.This does not seem to be so much the case with Morrissey’s songs, but recently, actually, I feel that there is more depth to them than the mundane surface at first shows. By which I mean, I’ve never thought them shallow, but they seemed to me for a long time the work of someone very much trapped in the mundane, and despite knowing that Morrissey is well-read, I’d wonder if he’d ever got round to reading the likes of C.G. Jung, which Bowie definitely has. Well, I still don’t know if Morrissey has read much in that area, but I have more of a sense these days that he’s aware of it. In fact, it’s really quite clever how his songs can seem so convincingly to be about one particular thing, and then slowly reveal themselves to support, with great consistency, a number of different readings. So, perhaps he’s not that dissimilar to Bowie, after all.
I think you’re right when you talk about the diffence between them.Actually Morrisey never meant to be “big”, or at least I cannot see him like this. Instead, Bowie always had a bigger purpose, to show feelings, bring them to surface, maybe things we could never feel if we didnt listen to him.Morrisey is more simple.I remembered a band I like very much and can be talked as well here: REM.I guess Michael Stypes wants to follow Bowie in his grandiosity.
I kind of got into REM for a while, and then I went off them for a bit, and now I’d have to have another listen to really say what I thought.Unfortunately my musical tastes are very narrow. I’m constantly trying (and failing) to branch out. Friends give me classical music CDs. I play them and listen to them, but I find it hard to really identify with most of it. I’ve noticed something really interesting, though. I can instantly like ‘classical music’ (as in orchestral etc. art music) of the 20th century (and perhaps of this), without even really knowing it’s modern ‘classical’ music. In terms of orchestral music, there seems to be a huge time divide for me where I really get the modern stuff, but not the classical classical stuff. Apparently that’s unusual. Apparently if you’re going to like orchestral music at all, you usually prefer Mozart to Messiaen. I seem to be the other way around.
I have some rules for myself. I never listen to bands or singers who are “new” or are making success.I like to have my own opinion after along time they get off the scene. When everybody say it’s cool, amazing or something like that, I doubt very much.I listen years after and then I see what really is cool or not.
I do that anyway out of sheer laziness, but I think from now on I’m going to say it’s my rule, for the reasons I’ve given, and that I do it on purpose.
I meant to write “for the reasons you’ve given”. It was late and I was tired.I’m sure that there must be riches contained in classical music, but I find that a barrier for me is the impression that this music, along with much of European art, was basically propped up by the class system.
about classical music… hmmm… I dont like it so much. I listen to Chopin and others I dont remember now, but I can stand it for a while… Then, I pass a long time no listening again…
oh, ok.well, modern ages… maybe classical music has been swallowed by the modern music. I dont know. what is cool today, isnt cool tomorrow. even those who are called “king” of something will have their art forgotten sometime.classical is the same. just few people still like it to the point they make it their lives. like the orchestrants.hmmmm, i guess i’m talking too much fool stuff… i need coffee.
I should say I have a very great respect for anyone who can dedicate themselves to a skill and an art, such as being a classically trained musician, in a world where such things are not always appreciated. I really admire that.”hmmmm, i guess i’m talking too much fool stuff… “Not at all. Please pop round any time.
By the way, when I say this kind of thing:I can instantly like ‘classical music’ (as in orchestral etc. art music) of the 20th century (and perhaps of this), without even really knowing it’s modern ‘classical’ music. In terms of orchestral music, there seems to be a huge time divide for me where I really get the modern stuff, but not the classical classical stuff. Apparently that’s unusual. Apparently if you’re going to like orchestral music at all, you usually prefer Mozart to Messiaen. I seem to be the other way around..That’s just me trying to sound cooler and less of a philistine than I actually am.When I was a teenager, ‘philistine’ was the ultimate insult to me.
hahah, trying to sound cooler?!you dont need this. who said classical stuff is cool? me? :left: :right: being serious now, I admire them as well. I really apreciate those who pass years playing piano, or violin. It’s not my way indeed!I’m not the person who can dedicate herself to something. Not for so long. I loose interest fast and easy.